diff --git a/src/BatchCommands.cpp b/src/BatchCommands.cpp
index e1be1d88d..a9b5ae004 100644
--- a/src/BatchCommands.cpp
+++ b/src/BatchCommands.cpp
@@ -87,19 +87,13 @@ static const std::pair<const wxChar*, const wxChar*> SpecialCommands[] = {
 };
 // end CLEANSPEECH remnant
 
-static const wxString MP3Conversion = wxT("MP3 Conversion");
-static const wxString FadeEnds      = wxT("Fade Ends");
-
 MacroCommands::MacroCommands()
 {
    mMessage = "";
    ResetMacro();
 
    wxArrayString names = GetNames();
-
-   wxArrayString defaults;
-   defaults.Add( MP3Conversion );
-   defaults.Add( FadeEnds  );
+   wxArrayString defaults = GetNamesOfDefaultMacros();
 
    for( size_t i = 0;i<defaults.Count();i++){
       wxString name = defaults[i];
@@ -111,6 +105,18 @@ MacroCommands::MacroCommands()
    }
 }
 
+static const wxString MP3Conversion = wxT("MP3 Conversion");
+static const wxString FadeEnds      = wxT("Fade Ends");
+
+
+wxArrayString MacroCommands::GetNamesOfDefaultMacros()
+{
+   wxArrayString defaults;
+   defaults.Add( MP3Conversion );
+   defaults.Add( FadeEnds  );
+   return defaults;
+}
+
 void MacroCommands::RestoreMacro(const wxString & name)
 {
 // TIDY-ME: Effects change their name with localisation.
@@ -120,11 +126,11 @@ void MacroCommands::RestoreMacro(const wxString & name)
         AddToMacro( wxT("Normalize") );
         AddToMacro( wxT("ExportMP3") );
    } else if (name == FadeEnds ){
-        AddToMacro( wxT("Select: Start=\"0\" End=\"1\"") );
+        AddToMacro( wxT("Select"), wxT("Start=\"0\" End=\"1\"") );
         AddToMacro( wxT("FadeIn") );
-        AddToMacro( wxT("Select: Start=\"0\" End=\"1\" FromEnd=\"1\"") );
+        AddToMacro( wxT("Select"), wxT("Start=\"0\" End=\"1\" FromEnd=\"1\"") );
         AddToMacro( wxT("FadeOut") );
-        AddToMacro( wxT("Select: Start=\"0\" End=\"0\"") );
+        AddToMacro( wxT("Select"), wxT("Start=\"0\" End=\"0\"") );
    }
 }
 
@@ -745,16 +751,27 @@ bool MacroCommands::ApplyCommandInBatchMode(const wxString & command, const wxSt
    return ApplyCommand( command, params );
 }
 
+static int MacroReentryCount = 0;
 // ApplyMacro returns true on success, false otherwise.
 // Any error reporting to the user in setting up the chain
 // has already been done.
 bool MacroCommands::ApplyMacro(const wxString & filename)
 {
+   // Check for reentrant ApplyMacro commands.
+   // We'll allow 1 level of reentry, but not more.
+   // And we treat ignoring deeper levels as a success.
+   if( MacroReentryCount > 1 )
+      return true;
+
+   // Restore the reentry counter (to zero) when we exit.
+   auto cleanup1 = valueRestorer( MacroReentryCount);
+   MacroReentryCount++;
+
    mFileName = filename;
 
    AudacityProject *proj = GetActiveProject();
    bool res = false;
-   auto cleanup = finally( [&] {
+   auto cleanup2 = finally( [&] {
       if (!res) {
          if(proj) {
             // Macro failed or was cancelled; revert to the previous state
@@ -795,7 +812,8 @@ bool MacroCommands::ApplyMacro(const wxString & filename)
 
    if (!proj)
       return false;
-   proj->PushState(longDesc, shortDesc);
+   if( MacroReentryCount <= 1 )
+      proj->PushState(longDesc, shortDesc);
    return true;
 }
 
@@ -877,13 +895,12 @@ wxArrayString MacroCommands::GetNames()
 
 bool MacroCommands::IsFixed(const wxString & name)
 {
-   if (name == MP3Conversion)
+   wxArrayString defaults = GetNamesOfDefaultMacros();
+   if( defaults.Index( name ) != wxNOT_FOUND )
       return true;
    return false;
 }
 
-
-
 void MacroCommands::Split(const wxString & str, wxString & command, wxString & param)
 {
    int splitAt;
diff --git a/src/BatchCommands.h b/src/BatchCommands.h
index 4e3245996..3e0ebcec7 100644
--- a/src/BatchCommands.h
+++ b/src/BatchCommands.h
@@ -42,6 +42,7 @@ class MacroCommands final {
 
    // These commands do not depend on the command list.
    static wxArrayString GetNames();
+   static wxArrayString GetNamesOfDefaultMacros();
 
    // A triple of user-visible name, internal string identifier and type/help string.
    using CommandName = std::tuple<wxString, wxString, wxString>;
diff --git a/src/BatchProcessDialog.cpp b/src/BatchProcessDialog.cpp
index af509b9fe..15482d63f 100644
--- a/src/BatchProcessDialog.cpp
+++ b/src/BatchProcessDialog.cpp
@@ -123,6 +123,14 @@ void ApplyMacroDialog::PopulateOrExchange(ShuttleGui &S)
          S.Id(ExpandID).AddButton(_("&Expand"));
       }
       S.EndHorizontalLay();
+      S.StartHorizontalLay(wxALIGN_RIGHT, false);
+      {
+         S.AddSpace( 40 );
+         S.AddPrompt( _("Apply Macro to:") );
+         S.Id(ApplyToProjectID).AddButton(_("&Project"));
+         S.Id(ApplyToFilesID).AddButton(_("&Files..."));
+      }
+      S.EndHorizontalLay();
 
       S.StartStatic(_("&Select Macro"), true);
       {
@@ -132,14 +140,8 @@ void ApplyMacroDialog::PopulateOrExchange(ShuttleGui &S)
          mMacros->InsertColumn(0, _("Macro"), wxLIST_FORMAT_LEFT);
       }
       S.EndStatic();
-
       S.StartHorizontalLay(wxALIGN_RIGHT, false);
       {
-         S.SetBorder(10);
-         S.AddPrompt( _("Apply Macro to:") );
-         S.Id(ApplyToProjectID).AddButton(_("&Project"));
-         S.Id(ApplyToFilesID).AddButton(_("&Files..."));
-         S.AddSpace( 40 );
          S.AddStandardButtons( eCancelButton | eHelpButton);
       }
       S.EndHorizontalLay();
@@ -190,6 +192,28 @@ void ApplyMacroDialog::OnApplyToProject(wxCommandEvent & WXUNUSED(event))
    ApplyMacroToProject( item );
 }
 
+wxString ApplyMacroDialog::MacroIdOfName( const wxString & MacroName )
+{
+   wxString Temp = MacroName;
+   Temp.Replace(" ","");
+   Temp = wxString( "Macro_" ) + Temp;
+   return Temp;
+}
+
+// Apply macro, given its ID.
+// Does nothing if not found, rather than returning an error.
+void ApplyMacroDialog::ApplyMacroToProject( const wxString & MacroID, bool bHasGui )
+{
+   for( size_t i=0;i<mMacros->GetItemCount();i++){
+      wxString name = mMacros->GetItemText(i);
+      if( MacroIdOfName( name ) == MacroID ){
+         ApplyMacroToProject( i, bHasGui );
+         return;
+      }
+   }
+}
+
+// Apply macro, given its number in the list.
 void ApplyMacroDialog::ApplyMacroToProject( int iMacro, bool bHasGui )
 {
    wxString name = mMacros->GetItemText(iMacro);
@@ -501,9 +525,9 @@ MacrosWindow::MacrosWindow(wxWindow * parent, bool bExpanded):
    ApplyMacroDialog(parent, true)
 {
    mbExpanded = bExpanded;
-   SetLabel(_("Macros"));         // Provide visual label
-   SetName(_("Macros"));          // Provide audible label
-   SetTitle(_("Macros"));
+   SetLabel(_("Edit Macros"));         // Provide visual label
+   SetName(_("Edit Macros"));          // Provide audible label
+   SetTitle(_("Edit Macros"));
 
    mChanged = false;
    mSelectedCommand = 0;
@@ -563,10 +587,18 @@ void MacrosWindow::PopulateOrExchange(ShuttleGui & S)
       {
          S.Prop(0).StartHorizontalLay(wxALIGN_RIGHT, false);
          {
-            S.Id(ShrinkID).AddButton(_("&Shrink"));
+            S.Id(ShrinkID).AddButton(_("Shrin&k"));
          }
          S.EndHorizontalLay();
-         S.StartStatic(_("&Macros"),1);
+         S.StartHorizontalLay(wxALIGN_RIGHT, false);
+         {
+            S.AddSpace( 40 );
+            S.AddPrompt( _("Apply Macro to:") );
+            S.Id(ApplyToProjectID).AddButton(_("&Project"));
+            S.Id(ApplyToFilesID).AddButton(_("&Files..."));
+         }
+         S.EndHorizontalLay();
+         S.StartStatic(_("&Select Macros"),1);
          {
             S.SetStyle(wxSUNKEN_BORDER | wxLC_REPORT | wxLC_HRULES | wxLC_SINGLE_SEL |
                        wxLC_EDIT_LABELS);
@@ -587,7 +619,7 @@ void MacrosWindow::PopulateOrExchange(ShuttleGui & S)
 
       S.StartVerticalLay( 1 );
       {
-         S.StartStatic(_("Ma&cro (Double-Click or press SPACE to edit)"), true);
+         S.StartStatic(_("&Macro (Double-Click or press SPACE to edit)"), true);
          {
             S.StartHorizontalLay(wxEXPAND,1);
             {
@@ -620,10 +652,6 @@ void MacrosWindow::PopulateOrExchange(ShuttleGui & S)
          S.EndStatic();
          S.StartHorizontalLay(wxALIGN_RIGHT, false);
          {
-            S.AddPrompt( _("Apply Macro to:") );
-            S.Id(ApplyToProjectButtonID).AddButton(_("&Project"), wxALIGN_LEFT);
-            S.Id(ApplyToFilesButtonID).AddButton(_("&Files..."), wxALIGN_LEFT);
-            S.AddSpace( 40 );
             S.AddStandardButtons( eOkButton | eCancelButton | eHelpButton);
          }
          S.EndHorizontalLay();
@@ -684,6 +712,10 @@ void MacrosWindow::UpdateDisplay( bool bExpanded )
 {
    if( bExpanded == mbExpanded )
       return;
+
+   if( !SaveChanges() )
+      return;
+
    mbExpanded = bExpanded;
    DestroyChildren();
    SetSizer( nullptr );
@@ -692,10 +724,22 @@ void MacrosWindow::UpdateDisplay( bool bExpanded )
    mSelectedCommand = 0;
    SetMinSize( wxSize( 200,200 ));
 
+   // Get and set position for optical stability.
+   // Expanded and shrunk dialogs 'stay where they were'.
+   // That's OK , and what we want, even if we exapnd off-screen.
+   // We won't shrink to being off-screen, since the shrink button 
+   // was clicked, so must have been on screen.
+   wxPoint p = GetPosition( );
    if( mbExpanded )
       Populate();
    else
       ApplyMacroDialog::Populate();
+   SetPosition( p );
+
+   wxString Title = mbExpanded ? _("Edit Macros") : _("Apply Macro");
+   SetLabel( Title );         // Provide visual label
+   SetName( Title );          // Provide audible label
+   SetTitle( Title );
 }
 
 void MacrosWindow::OnExpand(wxCommandEvent &WXUNUSED(event))
diff --git a/src/BatchProcessDialog.h b/src/BatchProcessDialog.h
index 32568936d..29e4af050 100644
--- a/src/BatchProcessDialog.h
+++ b/src/BatchProcessDialog.h
@@ -56,7 +56,9 @@ class ApplyMacroDialog : public wxDialogWrapper {
    virtual wxString GetHelpPageName() {return "Tools_Menu#macros_compact_dialog";};
 
    void PopulateMacros();
+   static wxString MacroIdOfName( const wxString & MacroName );
    void ApplyMacroToProject( int iMacro, bool bHasGui=true );
+   void ApplyMacroToProject( const wxString & MacroID, bool bHasGui=true );
 
 
    // These will be reused in the derived class...
diff --git a/src/Menus.cpp b/src/Menus.cpp
index a41be23f2..b592cc3a1 100644
--- a/src/Menus.cpp
+++ b/src/Menus.cpp
@@ -1713,7 +1713,8 @@ void AudacityProject::PopulateMacrosMenu( CommandManager* c, CommandFlag flags
    int i;
 
    for (i = 0; i < (int)names.GetCount(); i++) {
-      c->AddItem(wxString::Format("Macro%03i", i ), names[i], FN(OnApplyMacroDirectly),
+      wxString MacroID = ApplyMacroDialog::MacroIdOfName( names[i] );
+      c->AddItem(MacroID, names[i], FN(OnApplyMacroDirectly),
          flags,
          flags);
    }
@@ -6860,10 +6861,17 @@ void AudacityProject::OnApplyMacroDirectly(const CommandContext &context )
    //wxLogDebug( "Macro was: %s", context.parameter);
    ApplyMacroDialog dlg(this);
    wxString Name = context.parameter;
+
+// We used numbers previously, but macros could get renumbered, making
+// macros containing macros unpredictable.
+#ifdef MACROS_BY_NUMBERS
    long item=0;
    // Take last three letters (of e.g. Macro007) and convert to a number.
    Name.Mid( Name.Length() - 3 ).ToLong( &item, 10 );
    dlg.ApplyMacroToProject( item, false );
+#else
+   dlg.ApplyMacroToProject( Name, false );
+#endif
    ModifyUndoMenuItems();
 }